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End of summary?

As of now it reads: "Lord blessed the latter days of Job more than his beginning and he lived 140 years ^[1]." This seems to be more just a direct quote of Biblical verse than an explanation of what happened after Job's response to God, and at the very least does not match the rest of the article in tone or style. Anyone who knows what happened to Job after he put his hands on his mouth want to rewrite this?

References

^ Job 42:16-17

Are Job and Jobab the Same Person?

Are Job and Jobab the Same Person? http://www.setterfield.org/Jobab.html Lemmiwinks2 (talk) 06:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your link is to a domain which 'may be for sale'. Do you have another source for the name Jobab? PortholePete (talk) 14:17, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Small question on pronunciation/etymology

When I read 'job' I pronounced it in my head as I would in English, like 'job' as in employment. Later I heard the name spoken as 'joub'. How do we know the latter is correct (meaning, as originally pronounced)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.253.248 (talk) 13:45, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not entirely sure that there is an official pronunciation of the English spelling. It is a little like the way the term 'Pauline' from New-Testament scholarship can be pronounced at least two ways. Translators of written texts are, after all, only working on writing rather than pronunciation. For the record, I have always heard English-speaking commentators use the pronunciation that rhymes with 'lobe' rather than 'lob'. PortholePete (talk) 20:08, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Job born c. ?, died c. ?

We should be able to determine app. years of birth and death for Job. 2603:3020:B0A:F400:A5CD:D17C:8F77:D6A3 (talk) 16:27, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't that depend on whether Job is an allegory or not? If he is not, you would need a source for the historicity of the man. PortholePete (talk) 20:09, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Honest question: Which chronological clues do you see in the Book of Job? Dimadick (talk) 12:16, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A question on the letters in Hebrew

Why is that when this article gives the letters in Hebrew for "Job", the first letter given is Aleph? I would have thought that the way to spell Job would just be "Jod Beth", as there is no A in his name. Please do give me some new knowledge if I have missed something, as my native language is English, not Hebrew. Thank you. YTKJ (talk) 10:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're right that there is no A sound in the name, either in Hebrew or English. The letter Aleph is not exactly a vowel; it represents a glottal stop, which in English is not generally viewed as a consonant in itself, but in Hebrew it is necessary to write because otherwise words cannot start with a vowel. Aleph can occur with any vowel in Hebrew (short or long A, E, I, O or U). In the case of the name Job, the Hebrew version is pronounced something like 'iyov', which was historically transcribed as 'Iob' in Latin, and this became 'Job' in modern English. - Lindert (talk) 18:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dating Job's birth

In Eusebius' Proof of the Gospel he records Job as being 'pre-Mosaic'! Book 1, Page 35, Chapter 5 ' The Patriarch's Religion' 2601:194:381:7C0:4C5D:D7EF:A193:5F3C (talk) 18:21, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Job 42:16-17

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